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A word from Boating America Author Mark Cameron, 

I have always been an avid boat fan. I've spent many summers in Michigan (Traverse City area) and enjoyed having a good aluminum 12 foot row boat to row around in. I used a little Johnson 3 hp. motor (that my grandfather let me use). Not exactly a fast moving boat but hey! I was only 12. Then came the 15 Hp. 1955 Evinrude that I still to this day have sitting in the garage, ( I have it stashed behind an old toy barn that my son has been nagging me to refurbish) . This old monster last ran in 1982 and I am scared to death that it may never start again if and when I get it out. But in the old days it got me up to 18 miles per hour on that 12 foot row boat. It even pulled me water skiing! Then because of family reasons I didn't go back to Michigan until 94. After 11 years worth of trips to Myrtle Beach and a brief sprint to the Caribbean and Hawaii, I realized I missed spending time on the water with complete control of my own craft (The bug Returns). June 20th 1994 I broke down and bought my first 18 foot open bow ski boat. I had looked and looked and picked up a phone book size worth of pamphlets at boat shows and even figured up different payments, interest and price ranges. Then I walked in the show room that morning and looked at a boat that I had been eyeing, went to the sales person that I had been driving crazy for better then two years, and said "write it up".

Ok its only an 18 foot but it is small enough for the kind of inland lakes and rivers I like and its big enough for the kids and I without going overboard on HP. limits. It is a Kentucky based manufacturer and it uses the ever famous Mercrusier outdrive in the 3.0 litre 4 cylinder format. Its a first boat, low payment, low insurance and light enough for the van to idle it out of the water. I can get up to 40 miles per hour on a ski prop but I generally stay at a 20 - 30 miles per hour speed.

I pulled into the Marine dealership that following morning ready to pick up the boat and brought the kids with me (not telling them what I was up to I might add). My daughter 8 and son 5 just thought it was just another trip to a dealer which I was sure they found boring until we went back to the van and the boat and trailer were all hooked up. The kids needless to say were excited probably more than I was.

-First Time Out-

If you remember your first day out with your new boat, or have yet to experience it, is probably one of the most exciting days of your life, (with the exception of a wedding day). I pulled the boat to a lake outside of Zanesville, Ohio just east of Columbus where we bought it. backed it down the ramp for the first time.... (I suppose your waiting for the ole "I forgot the plug" story) but luckily the guy in front of me forgot his and I saw him start to sink while he was floating there. Needless to say I was a prior row boater and knew about plugs. The other guy managed to jump in the water and screw it in submerged. My boss at work however sunk his to his carperator. I felt like a real pro running the blower for the proper five minutes, checking the life jackets, all brand new right out of the store. I had the kids buckled up and we were off to the fun of backing down the boat ramp. All was fine until I realized that I forgot to undo the straps after noticing the boat was getting a bit deep without floating off the trailer. Oh well I guess it was just as embarrassing. I pulled back out, disconnected all the straps and off to her maiden voyage on Dillon Lake . With the non-alcoholic bottle of bubbly broken over the bow we were off. The boaters happiest day of his life!

They say its the happiest day when they sell the boat too! But now nearly two years later, each day I take the cover off with a full 30 gallon gas tank I still feel just as happy! That day on Dillon lasted about two hours when our first raging thunderstorm came along. We made a quick run for the van and I backed the trailer down the ramp and spent the entire down-pour trying to get lined up for the trailer (not bad considering the high winds). After about 20-minutes I was up out of the water, engine up, drain out and ready with the towels. Then on the way through Zanesville a light suddenly changed and I couldn't stop in time and I could say it was my first written warning pulling a trailer. It doesn't end there, I headed to visit a friend and while trying to get situated backing up, a drunk driver came flying down the road out of nowhere and I heard this sickening "screech". Fortunately he only nicked the trailer, but I couldn't say much about his car! He got out and looked at his car, turned to me, he looked mad and a bit dis-oriented, (It was dark and I technically had the high beams on by accident and he didn't see the trailer while I was backing) and he asked me who was going to pay for the damage to his car. I (with my heart still raging and still wet from the storm) said, "let me make a phone call, the sheriff should take a report". I headed for my car phone and he immediately backed down and ran to his car and took off. Yes he really reeked of alcohol and didn't to file a report. Needless to say I little touch up paint on the Tennesse Trailer with the Bearing Buddies did the trick! To this day I still practice backing without taking up more than my lane.

Not a bad first day, at least the boat wasn't at the bottom of the lake. I have taken that boat on lake after lake in Michigan, West Virginia and my home state of Ohio. I also broke my first prop a week later while on vacation near Traverse City on Torch lake. It happened while trying to out run a Thunderstorm, that I have been a magnet for lately.

This summer I plan on a relaxing house boat trip on Kentucky's Lake Cumberland. I have never been there and I am very excited about it!
 
 

Favorite Inland Lake Trip:

Chain of Lakes near Traverse City, Michigan. In Elk Rapids 21 miles north on U.S. 31 a convenient boat ramp near downtown allows you access to both Lake Michigan on the lower ramp at the marina (one of the best ones I have visited I might add), and Elk Lake on the upper ramp about a block away. Its about 60 miles round trip, restaurants and gas stops are available along the way. South on Elk leads to Lake Skegomog, then you head for the stumps (there are markings), and look for Torch River. On the way into Torch River you may watch for the Bald Eagle who sits perched on top of a dead tree to the west. Its about 5 miles in "no wake" then you come up on a small town on the south end of the huge inland lake, Torch Lake. Its also one of the clearest with depth visibility up to 20 feet in some areas making a depth finder unnecessary. Carefully follow the markings that guides you out of the river onto the lake. If you venture out of the way you will hit sand as shallow as a foot 100 yards from shore. Its also a great place to pop up a volleyball net! Then about 7 miles up torch you want to keep your eye on the east side of the lake where the valley appears to be and head into Clam Lake. A nice bar/restaurant sits at the entry point with reasonable and tasty food. I believe I had a burrito while the kids chowed on hot dogs. Clam lake is about half to a quarter as wide as the Ohio River and is a full wake zone. As you head east you will come up on markings that guide you into Grass River. Be ready to be followed by Ducks and Swans if your kids happen to have popcorn! (a picture of this locale is used as a setting for a Four Winds Boat advertisement in their 94' catalog). Grass river (no wake) takes you into the wilderness for several brief moments between the occasional houses but is one of the most beautiful parts of the trip. We stopped along the way and did some swimming. After about 8 or 9 miles its onto Lake Bellaire. By now you will be along way from Elk Rapids. Lake Bellaire is surrounded by houses on scarce lake front property. Its not big enough to generate large waves and is therefore great for skiing. Be careful when entering from Grass River, stay straight for about 400 yards and you are set!. You can actually retrailer onto Intermediate Lake (above the Dam in Bellaire in Antrim County) and go up several more lakes including Six Mile and Wilson.

If you like to Fish, this will be one long troll you will never forget. On Grass River it was as easy as casting the rod!

Back in Elk Rapids we caught up with a couple whom had made the trip on Jet Skis. I used about 15 gallons of fuel, and still had enough for the rest of the vacation. Lodging is expensive in the Traverse City area in July but the best time seems to be in June when the weather (at least it seems) to be drier then, and with less expensive rooms available.

  • The Best: Grand Traverse Resort Hotel
  • Budget: Many National Chains ie. Super 8 etc.
  • Slips: Elk River Inn has several located in Elk Rapids on Elk Lake.
  • Homely: There are still a few Ma, Pa run cottages available in the area some people have been going to for years and years (which my grandparents use to run as well). Check the Grand Traverse area of Commerce for such a listing.

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    Also if you like the big stuff, Grand Traverse's Bay offers shelter from the Lake Michigan roughness and a suggested stop is Suttons bay and North Port on the west bay area. The weather changes quickly and I recommend a Marine Radio for Lake Michigan.

    I know this is getting long, but this is one of many stories I find myself getting into with many other boaters that are shut in for the winter, except in the south. If you have any experiences on exciting all day boating trips or Great Lake Crossings, Waterways etc., E-Mail me your experiences and I will post them. Also be sure to check out boaters news groups which I have posted on the "Links Page".

    Mark Cameron


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    Subject: Paintsville Lake Ky.
    Date: Jul 97 20:45:59 +0000
    From: boataholic@aol.com NAME : Mike Justus,,,,Delaware, OH
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Kentucky Wonder! Paintsville Lake
    My family and I, along with another couple, had the opportunity to discover Paintsville Lake in June of this year. Oh, what a gem we found! The lake is located in eastern Kentucky near the town of Paintsville and only about 4 miles off Rt. 23. It is approximately 200 miles from Columbus or about 4 to 4 1/2 hrs driving time, depending on stops. The lake is not real large at 1,100 acres but it is approx. 20 miles long to its most navigable point. In fact, the term lake is somewhat of a misnomer because after you get approximately 3 miles above the dam, it narrows down considerably to more resemble a river. A deep river....depths in the channel were often 75’ or more. The lake is not for the go fast types, with its twisting “S” turns and narrow areas, it's more for the cruiser that likes to take it slow and enjoy the sights. There are quite a few bass fishermen fishing the drop-offs along the entire length. I recommend you slow down to a no wake speed when passing them. We discovered that after coming up and down off plane so much to avoid disturbing them with our wake, that it was easier just to cruise the entire length at no wake speed. The lake appears to receive very little traffic from out of state visitors. I was amazed at how little boat traffic there was for a summer weekend. Although there are houseboats-both private and rentals- at the marina, we saw only one houseboat out on the lake all weekend. Most of what traffic there was appeared to be fishing boats and pontoons. There is one launch ramp at the dam near the lakes only marina. The ramp is very good and not steep at all. After launching our boats, we skirted a large island near the dam and proceeded to the nearest swim cove for lunch and a swim. The water was clear and refreshing! After a few hours we decided to push on toward the upper reaches of the lake. As the lake narrowed down , we began to appreciate the hidden beauty of this jewel. We motored by miles of rocky limestone bluffs complete with caves, overhangs and huge boulders. We gazed at the oaks, cedars and rhododendrons clinging tenaciously to these cliffs. I wondered how many bass the fallen trees at the base of these rocks held. If you could picture cruising through the Hocking Hills cave area in your boat, it would be a similar experience! We arrived at a fork in the lake and headed up the portside branch. We quickly found an uninhabited cove, set the hook and rafted off each other. We took turns using the wave runner to explore further from our “base camp”. I discovered a pristeen small cove with a waterfall spilling over the craggy rocks at one end, surrounded by a thick grove of wild rhododendron. I mentally marked that spot for a future anchorage! After supper aboard, we enjoyed a nice evening swim and enjoyed the tranquility of our quite little cove. Saturday brought more great weather and another day of exploring all of the lake’s nooks and crannies. We departed Sunday, beating a thunderstorm, but vowed to come back to this beautiful place. It was truly a trailerboaters dream!
    EMAIL : boataholic@aol.com NAME : Mike Justus,,,,Delaware, OH

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    Thanks Mike for the mail, I dropped this in the techniques because of the idea of base camping and running politely around bass fisherman. This lake sounds great, I hope to launch in down there sometime soon. Take care and happy boating this summer! -Mark
     


    Subject: Advice and Question
    Date: Mon, 14 Jul 97 20:45:59 +0000
    From: John Kimbrough <John_Kimbrough@adoc.xerox.com>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Mark:
    I enjoyed reading your experience, as well as many of the others, and the Gilligan's Island theme song on your home page is a classic !!!
    As for my personal experiences, I have to say mine have been flawless to date, however I have only had my boat a short time. I have seen other boaters who have traveled great distances and forgot to bring the keys to their boat with them and then trying to "hot-wire" their boats on the launch ramp I strongly recommend to folks (especially those who are known to forget things from time to time) to keep a second set of keys hidden in your towing vehicle at all times.
    Also, Do you know of any good sources for purchasing discount outboard motor parts via catalogs. I have a 1987 Force 125HP OB which I' planning to rebuild this coming winter.
    John Kimbrough A California Waters Boater

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I lost one of my keys once after ramping onto a river just above a small dam. After shoving off we started drifting towards the dam (which is a non controlled water fall type I forget the technical name) I wound up hot wiring the boat rather than fighting the current with oars. I had about 300 yards to spare. Now I start my boat while on the trailer and back off, doing away with the "getting shoved off without keys problem". The advice is well taken, I keep a spare key in my wallet for that just in case scenario. I haven't come across any parts catalogs for motors, there are exhaust manifolds for many engines (which usually fail after two years when used heavily in salt water) so your best bet is to contact your Force dealer, they may have a parts shop type of catalog that you may be able to order from or at least be able to supply you with the necessary rings and valve replacement parts, or whatever else you may need to rebuild. Good luck this winter ! -Mark
     


    Subject: need info with pontoon boat
    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 17:37:03 +0000
    From: "mike miller" <saftysrv@gte.net>
    Reply-To: <@gte.net>
    To: <Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net>
    thanks mark for your usefull info on boating just found your site today. I have a 1977 24 foot Landau pontoon with a 90 hp johnson engine ob. my question is i need a owners manual for this boat or address or phone number for Landau. also i use this boat/motor in salt water ( Tampa bay area ) every week end ,how should i rinse this off ? i do trailer in and out each wkend thanks mike miller

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I would recommend contacting http://www.bysnet.com/portside/ for a Landau dealer for your Pontoon. They may have the recommended manuals. When running in salt water part time I would suggest flushing the engine as soon as you pull it out. Also hose down the entire water exposed craft which will rinse the salt off and will reduce the speed of the erosion. Make sure that before you put in salt water that you make sure all your throttle and stirring cables are well lubricated to reduce exposure to the salt water air and any splashes. Good luck and see out on Tampa Bay sometime! (where my picture above was taken) :) . -Mark
     


    Subject: Thanks
    Date: Sun, 8 Jun 97 21:03:19 +0000
    From: Kf4dxh@aol.com
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Thanks Mark, I just had a very enjoyable "first launch" Expereince with the used boat I purchased, just a few days ago. Everything went smooth, and everything worked properly.( I did have to make two attempts at the ramp while backing up though). Just wanted to comment to you how the tips on your page were very helpfull to me. Thanks a lot for the info, and I'll be checking your page on a regular basis for more "how to's" Stan Parnell, Charlotte, NC

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    Glad to hear it worked out, the backing up is the hardest part! -Mark
     


    Subject: Boat Launch Courtesy
    Date: Fri, 28 Feb 97 22:06:29 +0000
    From: STV96@aol.com
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Mark, The one thing about a boat launch is that it is where you start and finish your boating enjoyment. Here are some do's and don'ts. Never pull up to the ramp, shut off your truck, and start to take off your cover, move fishing gear from the truck to the boat, ect. Do that in the parking lot first then pull up to the boat ramp, even if there is no one at the ramp when you first pull up, someone may arrive later that is ready to roll. Never rush the person in front of you, even if they are unloading there truck. Boats range in price from $500.00 to above $100,000.00 and so does the experience of that person in front of you, they may be nervous about there first launch or it's a new boat to them and they are not familiar with it yet and they need more time. If you offer help make sure that they actually want help, some people are just slower than others. Some people like to power their boats onto the trailer, that is a very effective way to load your boat but don't over rev the engine because it causes prop wash, (the big drop off at the edge of the ramp). I hope these tips help make the next boating trip a enjoyable time for everyone.

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I agree 100 %. Especially on a busy Sunday!  Running too much power while pulling onto the trailer can also cause small groups of fish to be pulled into the prop wash causing a deadly situation for the fish. A little thrust is all you need, otherwise back the trailer in a little more. Thanks for your input! -Mark
     


    Subject: What can I do?
    Date: Fri, 21 Feb 97 03:55:33 +0000
    From: ParMan2@aol.com
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    I bought an 81 Whaler from a friend who had left it in the water long enough to grow a small oyster bed on the bottom. The boat has been out of the water for 2-3 years, and these shells just refuse to come off. A putty knife can get some...but not all. I know I will need some work on the bottom, but is there any way I can get most if not all of the shells off prior to taking it to the fiberglass shop so my cost may be reduced?

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    You may want to try a high power car wash type of spray but with a lot more pressure. Also check your marine store for legal chemicals that won't harm fiberglass that will help soak the items off. Different states have different chemicals available. If all else fails I would then ask the fiberglass specialist about sanding it off and relaying layers of fiberglass coated with epoxy. Once you are back in the water and if you don't trailer regularly it would be a good idea to wipe the boat down including the entire hull and engine compenents regularly to clear away the build up. Its easy to take up snorkeling and go under the hull on smaller boats while anchored off a cosy beach and use a mop type of handle to clean it off. If the weather is too cold I would recommend trailering it to clean it off regularly. Also don't forget to check into antifouling paint (avaialble in many areas of the U.S.).

    -Mark



     
    Subject: Hydrofoil Stabilizer
    Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 02:57:41 +0000
    From: "tim.conley" <tim.conley@internetmci.com>
    To: Mark Cameron <Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net>
    Mark-great page! Lot's of great tips and suggestions useful to a variety of boaters. I commend you on your detailed answers. You apparently do your homework!
    I have a 21ft Raven Cuddy Cabin. We use it for a variety of activities. One of which being wake-boarding and knee boarding. These activities require slower speeds of 18-22mph. Problem is this: My boat consistenly falls off plane. It will maintain in very calm waters but, even a small boat wake will cause it to come off plane. Continually adjusting the throttle is a hastle. The boat is equipped with a Mercruiser I/O and an Alpha I outdrive. I am considering putting a hydrofoil-stablizer on to correct this problem..Do you think it will? Perhaps I should invest in trim-tabs (personally I think the boat is too small for trim-tabs)? Does the stabilizer have any side-effects? One more thing: My wife and I are going to the NC Outerbanks for a week-long cruise. What sort of extra engine parts would you recommend for this trip? Thanks in advance!
    Tim Conley

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I wouldn't invest in trim tabs for your particular size of boat, but the hydrofoil will help reduce the speed you need to reach to get up in plane by a couple of miles per hour. Unfortunately you are running at speeds that just begin to put the boat up on a steady plane, especially at 18 miles per hour. With a lighter weight load it will be more steady at 18, but drop off when you are hauling passengers beyond your spotter. At speeds of 22 (with a hydro add on kit) you should wipe out the problem all together. If you are still encountering speed changes you may want to change your prop to a new pitch giving you more revolutions at the same speeds (this will cut down in your top end however). As far as your trip to the outer banks, you should have a marine radio, the usual safety gear, plenty of food in case of engine problems, a GPS or Loranz and good charts that indicate marinas and fueling stops. Thanks for the compliment on the site and have fun on your trip ! -Mark
     


    Subject: Your Page
    Date: Mon, 17 Feb 97 00:18:51 +0000
    From: jsg22@frognet.net
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    HI MARK LAST YEAR I PURCHASED A SIMILAR RUNABOUT WITH THE 3 LITER 4 CYLINDER MERCRUISER COMBINATION THAT YOU STATED IN YOUR LETTER. WITH ONE SEASON UNDER OUR BELTS AS THE OWNER OF THIS NEW BOAT WE FOUND THAT IT EASILY MET OUR NEEDS AS A DEPENDABLE FAMILY BOAT CAPABLE OF INLAND LAKE CRUISING AND TOWING WATER TOYS. YOUR LETTER WAS REFRESHING IN ITS TREATMENT OF THE COST FACTORS RELATING TO BOAT OWNERSHIP BASED ON BOATING USAGE AND NOT STRICTLY ON APPEARANCES. IN REGARDS TO THE AWKWARD BOATING MOMENTS I WILL ADMIT TO TEARING UP ONE PROP, PULLING THE BOAT OUT OF THE WATER WITH THE LOWER UNIT DOWN ONCE, AND VARIOUS DEMONSTRATIONS OF HOW NOT TO LAUNCH AND RETRIEVE A BOAT. YOUR PLANS FOR LAKE CUMBERLAND SOUND GREAT, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TAKING OUR BOAT DOWN TO ROUGH RIVER RESERVOIR IN KENTUCKY THIS SUMMER.
    GOOD LUCK FRED

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    There are thousands like us huh Fred ! Let me know how the Rough River Reservoir turns out, have a great 97!
     


    Subject: First Mate's Advice
    Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 04:18:22 +0000
    From: "N. Sando" <nsando@vivanet.com>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Just found your page and really like it. In response to some letters asking for advice on putting the boat in the water, docking, etc. - this First Mate's first piece of advice to all the "Captains" out there is DO NOT yell (scream, holler, swear) when engaging in any boating activity. It can make the crew want to mutiny! We now have our second boat and both try to remain as cool, calm, and collected as we can - even when things go wrong. It takes some practice. Somtimes for entertainment these days, we sit on the dock by the launch ramps and watch other people - I think there might be a book in it! Seriously, boating is fun and relaxing once you find some ways to deal with the inevitable frustrations. So, if you're new to boating - might we worth discussing with your mate before you put that boat in the water.

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I have heard of people sitting back for a full Sunday afternoon of entertainment down at the boat ramps! Its true, about discussing the process with your mate, and even practicing on a slow launch day. I have seen this demonstrated by a fishing club here in Columbus that meets on some Tuesdays where around 50 boats launch on four ramps in less time then it takes 8 to 10. One in the boat while the vehicle backs down, tilts engine in while hitting the water, starts engine, releases boat backs off, all while the trailer is moving backwards, brakes are hit and the truck pulls forward and the boat is out and away from the ramp and over to tempoary tie up, all in a matter of seconds. The traffic keeps moving, try that on a Sunday sometime! A little practice can gain a lot of speed and respect from for anyone waiting behind any boater!. Have fun next summer ! -Mark
     


    Subject: Fresh or salt Date:
    Tue, 3 Dec 96 00:50:04 +0000
    From: Perry Rivkind <par@flash.net>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Mark, One more guestion please. Hampton Roads.Is the James River fresh water.As I indicated to you in my last letter my boat will be in a slip on that river.Just wanted to know that I don't have to flush the engine and concern myself with corrosion if it's on fresh water. Thanks again for your great advice. Perry

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    Perry that water is "brine" which is fresh water saturated with salt. You should still flush for least amount of corrision. Even flushing on freshwater lakes is good practice to remove sand and mud which can build up in the engine. Your plans on the boat with the 200 HP OB engine should be easy to flush while even tilted out of the water (unlike stern drives). Some stern drive models have radiators that have coolant just like cars and don't cool with raw sea water. These units are popular with many salt water boaters since you have less engine corision with this setup. If you switch to stern drive model, check into this kind of cooling system. Local Marine dealers in Virginia are more than friendly when it comes to advice! -Mark.
     


    Subject: advice
    Date: Mon, 25 Nov 96 18:11:09 +0000
    From: Perry Rivkind <par@flash.net>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Mark, I'm moving to Hampton Roads,Va. and plan to buy a boat.I'm interested in fishing, cruising the rivers and ocean in that area.It's all water up there.Interested in a 23' Sunbird neptune cabin 230.It weighs 4100 lbs.. and will be in a boat slip on the James river.Want to use it in the winter, thats why I want a cabin.First,do I need the bottem painted and is this the appropriate boat for the described uses and area. It also holds a 130 gals.of gas and has a 200 OB Johnson.It's just my wife and me.She wants me to buy a smaller open type boat.Says its less work.Appreciate your advice. Perry

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    The size of boat you are looking at is fine but be careful of bad weather!. I have been in the Hampton Roads area in January and as for the winter boating you should be fine. I would keep an eye out for cold weather patterns and watch water temperatures just in case of freezing problems, winters there do have a few cold spells, mostly ice though. Have a trailer handy in case of a real hard freeze, you could pull out and drain the necessary items, bilge etc. A cabin boat does require more work as far as winterizing, especially with holding tanks. You should store fresh water tanks with an RV type of antifreeze that is safe for the environment, and as far as the winter cabin goes, skip the bathroom / shower (if equipped) until March. Your wife is right as far as smaller boats go, they are easier, but a true boating hobbiest won't mind a little extra work!. The bottom paint is a must. Anti fowling paint (if I have that spelled correctly) will help prevent organisims from building up on the bottom of the boat and ultimately give you continued easy planes when running at higher speeds, especailly if it sits at a slip instead of on a trailer. Spend the extra money, its worth it!. -Mark
     

    One more question Mark.I get differant stories on the question of MPG.What MPG could I expect on a 4000 lb.Neptune Sunbird Cuddy with a 200 HP Johnson traveling at 28MPH ? This boat holds 130 Gallons of gas. Thanks again, Perry Rivkind

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    Boat fuel is measured in miles per gallon and / or gallons per hour, it would peak at about 25 or 30 or so depending on torque etc, so at that speed you might get about 2.5 miles per gallon or around 10-12 gallons per hour. Not the Geo Metro type of mileage, but the lighter the boat the more fuel miles it would have. You should go about 13 hours on a tank, unless your loaded down with passangers, or 120-140 miles. I suggest go out 1/3 then turn around and come back on the 2/3, leave yourself a good 1/3 tank for bad weather, currents or god forbid, emergencies. -Mark
     


    Subject: Winter Storage
    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 96 19:42:59 +0000
    From: KRossi6064@aol.com
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Hi , I have 1970 Evinrude outboard 85 horsepower,what can I do to winterize the engine that I am storing it and the boat on my driveway??Please let me know about it soon as possible!!!!!

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    Outboards are easier to winterize than I/Os so here are a few tips, of course you should always refer to a manual. Most people will hook up the engine to a water hose using cups (available for about 4 dollars at Walmart) start the engine and squirt oil into the carberator for a few minutes and then stalling it out. The smoke it generates coats the entire inside of the engine and exhaust helping to reduce rust. Others may take out each of the plugs and squirt oil in the cylinders and turn over the crank a few times (if a hose isn't available). Next take the battery out and clean the contacts, remove the tank and stablize any stored fuel (with a stabilizer available at most marine and auto stores (on I/Os pour some in your tank on your last outting so it gets into the fuel line as well). Next obtain the proper gear oil (I use Quick Silver High Performance on mine), and open the screw on the lower part of the engine just above the skeg where it drains the gear oil. Also open the top screw this will help all the oil to drain out. This is a great time to remove any water that may be in the casing and eliminate a chance for cracking from ice. The process is slow but worth it. Then pump oil in from the bottom with a gear oil pump (available at all marine dealers). When the oil reaches the top hole you are done (newer boats with reservoirs need to be topped off as well). Remove the pump, pump some into the top (which the level may be a little low with a few air bubbles), and your gear oil is changed!. Next I recommend storing the trailer in a tilted postion so any moisture will run out the back, and leave the drain hole unplugged. (some boats have exhuast manifolds that must be drained for winter storing or pumped with anti freeze, other should have an anti freeze change depending on the type of I/O unit). Next Jack the trailer so the wheels don;t get a flat spot, check your trailer bearings, re torque your lug nuts, and lube any necessary parts (ie. power tilt if applicable, check reservoir). You may also want to coat your steering lines and throttle linkages with special lube 101 (some use WD40) to make sure the lines are working properly. Plan to spend an afternoon and then in the spring you will be ready to be back out on the lake by hooking up the tank and battery and you're set. -Mark



     
    Subject: Hello, I have a wee tip.
    Date: Wed, 9 Oct 96 00:35:11 +0000
    From: david richardson <"richardsonm@voyager.net"@voyager.net>
    Organization: MMC
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    For those who have a three chamber boat (like my 18ft 4 winns w/ 55hp johnson), and forgot to put the plug in - you need not worry. If your boat has more than one air chamber (where the rainwater usually goes) and you forgot the plug, just take the boat out and run it at a fast clip (faster is better), thus the water will drain to the stern drain hole and the momentum will force most of the water out - this may take a while (depending on how long you noticed the water sneaking in). And after you get most of the water out, get to the back and plug the hole while your still cruising - this is the only way I now of to get the water out (if you've already left the dock). I learned this from my uncle on Pentwater lake - I guess it happened to him:) I live close to Silver Lake (Silver Lake Sand Dunes) and am pretty much surrounded by lakes - Pentwater lake is 11 miles from here. Dave

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I have seen that experience more than once even on personal watercraft. If you have enough time and are not weighed down by too much water on the boat you can usually get up to plane and with a little trim you can nose up and dump out the water, especially helpful along with the bilge pump. I strongly recommend to trailer the boat unless you have the plug with you and in that case pull up on a beach where you're not in mud and then screw it in. Other wise if you are weighed down its bucket time or swim!   -Mark



     
    Subject: boating questions
    Date: Sun, 8 Sep 96 17:28:23 +0000
    From: Clay Ross <rossdc1@concentric.net>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Mark,
    I just ran upon your page and I think it's great! I recently bought a 17' 1976 Winner 120hp I/O. It's an older boat, but we were assured by the dealer that it was really in great condition (I really had no choice but to take his word for it). Now, you must understand, this is our first boat and my wife or I know nearly nothing about boating, but we figured we would learn as we go. We took it to one of the area lakes last weekend (we live in the Kansas City Area) in hopes of christening it with a fabulous weekend of boating. Needless to say, we had a very bad day with it. Alot of our troubles had to do with flooding the engine, the inability to back the trailer, trouble putting the boat in the water, taking the boat out of the water and keeping the boat running while in the water. The boat would die when I throttled down quickly from full to idle, and we wouldn't be able to get it started again, three of us ended up paddling back about 1.5 miles to the boat dock with one paddle and 2 water skis. I am sure it was a funny sight for anyone watching (I am sure I would have laughed myself silly had I been watching), but it was not really that funny to be a participant. When we got back home my wife wanted me to sell the boat. I was wondering if you could post a beginners guide to boating, all the basic's of what to do and NOT to do, and a guide for those that know nothing about baoting who want to buy a boat. Thanks in advance. And thank you for your page.
    Clay Ross Shawnee, Kansas

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I have heard of first experiences like these many times. I think you may want to tune up your engine however, it shouldn't stall during a complete stop from a full throttle. Have all your filters and the timing checked. A new set of plugs and wires would help decrease gas consumption. As far as backing the boat, a secret to the first time out is to take it out on a weekday by yourself or with a first mate and get the feel of backing, launching, trailering and operation (weekdays are great for this, there is never anyone around to watch you make a few mistakes). Then you will have a feel of whats coming up when the whole family and friends are there watching the christening. In your case I would reschedule the christening, after a couple of pratice runs and a tune up!  I must admit one thing I did do last summer as far as stalling goes, I was running my 18ft open bow out on Grand Traverse Bay when the weather was changing, causing some 3-5 foot waves to roll in. I hooked up my safety cut-off switch to my belt and managed to take the boat out to the Old Mission Light House, about 6 miles from Elk Rapids. We got out to the tip, staying about 500 yards from shore to avoid the Shoals (rocks), and when I stood up after stopping the engine cut off. I was thinking to my self and caused concern to my kids, that the engine wouldn't restart and we will have to drift back to shore which may take hours. Then I remembered the cutoff switch, and luckily got the now flooded engine started. Fortunately I had a cellular phone and a GPS along to call for help in case the waves got any worse. I rarely boat on Lake Michigan, I like to stay more inland, but my oldest daughter had to see that lighthouse! (quite spectacular at sunset !).

    I will look into developing a new section for first time buyers, and be sure to ask your wife if she would give it another chance after a few pratice runs. Also be sure to look into a Boaters Safety course, Good luck on your next run Clay! -Mark



     
    Subject: References
    Date: Tues, 27Aug 96 10:57:00 PDT
    From: John Moody (address withheld)
    To: "'Mark-Cameron@Worldnet.att.net'" <Mark-Cameron@Worldnet.att.net>
    I must admit that my friends and I boat quite frequently. It is a great time until its time to pull out and then everyone has his or her own idea of how to trailer the boat at the ramp. Five friends and I were pulling out of Carter's Lake near Atlanta and we must have spent 15-minutes yelling at each other, "Back it down, a little more to the right, no left I meant" etc. Meanwhile a guy pulls up in his boat. Runs to his truck, backs down the other ramp, runs to the dock, grabs the boat trailers it (we both have drive up trailers), cranks the winch a few notches and out he goes, in under 3-minutes. It was another 5 or so for us, and then we forgot to tilt the engine up when we did pull out. What is the best way to trailer and untrailer the boat?

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    John, you need to have your friends take a little walk once its trailer time. Have one drive the boat up to the trailer once you have dunked and then have him or her walk it out with you. I find that launching has been easier by doing it by myself. I back in (after straps and plugs are checked bower on etc.) and wait to see the back of the boat floating. Then I go back to the boat and disconnect the winch and back it off, dock and then park the van. Trailering is easy by yourself when your not busy analysing suggestions from everyone!. I dock, back the trailer in unitl about 6 inches of carpet is showing (or top wheels just sticking out for roller models). Then I drive up and shut the engine down and tilt up. Then I winch the boat on about a foot or so (occassionally I thrust up when and where its legal, but thrusting can damage the guide if you hit it too hard, plus you don't want to make a fish milkshake in case a school of fish happen to be in the ramp area which is comon in the late summer). I Winch and I am out of there. Later I strap, drain the engine and remove the drain plug, wipe down cover and check the bearings, lights, and I am out of there. Other people have their own methods of trailering such has always having a first mate around, where two people can save time as long as a method is discussed a head of time, (I've-seen it done in under 3-minutes). Good luck John on your next run!



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    Subject: Your Web Site
    Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:35:33 EST
    From: Socalman35@aol.com
    To: Mark-Cameron@boatingamerica.com
     
     
     
     
    Mark,
    Found this web site to be fun and informative. Just bought our first boat
    (1999 20' IO Bayliner w/4cyl, bowrider)..and found out some interesting
    lessons in the "shopping" game of buying boats. First, let me ask...have not
    seen any new entries in your email except one dated Mar 1, 1999..yet nothing
    else all year?..anyway...Here's my "first time boat purchaser" story.
    When we decided we were going to purchase a boat, our first intentions were a
    used boat..since we were in the $5 to $6K range. We wanted to pay cash, and
    not finance. I bought a "Boat Trader" magazine and started the hunt. We knew
    we wanted an open bow, IO style boat..and something that would hold 8 people
    comfortably (as well as legally) since we have 3 kids. All of our friends have
    speed boats..but they only hold 4 or 5 people, they're loud, they're windy,
    and there's no where to put an ice chest. Plus, I'm not very mechanically
    inclined, and I know everyone who owns a speed boat with automotive engines
    are always having to wrench on them...thats not for me. So, we head to a
    used/new boat dealer in our area. We pulled up and were given a price list. We
    liked this, since I don't like salesman following us around anyway. The boat
    that was pictured that originally took us in this dealers direction was a
    wreck. Needed interior work, outside paint..looked plain ugly..for $4,000! So,
    we kept looking. I then talked to a salesman, wanting to pick his brain about
    boats..prices of parts, expense, how do we know how many hours are on the boat
    if there's no meter, whats the plaque in the boat for..is that the legal limit
    of how many people can ride in boat..and if so, how come that 20' boat says 10
    people, and that 20' boat says 6 people?..here are the answers I received, and
    again, I had'nt read a magazine, a book, been in the net or anything.
             "Engines...well theres Volvo and theres Mercruiser. They're both GM
    blocks..and if you had a problem, you could buy an engine for about $1200. The
    only difference is the head gaskets..copper instead of regular".  "I've been
    selling boats for
    30 years here..so I know my stuff"....(this was what the person told me). The
    correct answers are: Engines vary from about $4000 upwards to $12000,
    depending on size, and this doesn't include the out drive portion of the
    engine, which is another $2000 to $6000. My 4 cylinder Mercruiser with Alpha 1
    out drive is $6200 to replace. Marine engines are high performance parts..from
    valves, cranks, pistons, rings and Marine sealed starter, alternators
    exhaust...all that. They are higher performance, stronger
    engines than automobiles..simply because they are designed to run at much
    higher
    rpms than a car, because most boats don't have transmissions.
             The answer I was given about the amount of people was: "Thats just a
    number
    they have to put on the boat for coast guard purposes, but you can put more".
    Some
    boats just put a larger number than others, and charge more for their
    boats"..The
    real answer: The yellow plaque is mandated by coast guard on all boats under
    26' (I believe) and is 2 things. The boat can stay afloat for 72 hours with
    the posted amount
    of weight or persons after being submerged..it will still float. It is also
    the maximum amount of people you can put in the boat..period. Same size boats
    are rated differently, because some are built better...therefore tests show
    they can withstand more weight/bodies for the 72 hours submerged test than
    other boats. This is important...because it can help determine the quality of
    a manufacturor.
             Why no meter?...salesman said its not required..but really doesn't
    mean much. Well, its true, its not required..but it is better to find a used
    boat that does have a meter on it. You can also tell by the carpet wear and
    tear....its a help, but not scientific.
             When we accidently priced some new boats (while next door looking at
    more
    used boats at another lot)..we decided it was worth it to buy new. Some rumors
    of brands and engines I heard at the boat show...Bayliner is a lower end built
    boat..and was built poorly prior to 95. They used Volvo/Penta systems..which
    arent as good as Mercruiser (well this might be true..since Mercruiser run
    about 8% higher in price). The older (pre 95) Bayliners hold 5 or 6 people (19
    to 20") which was true. The outside jell coats were cheap and fade...again,
    true..look at any 5 year or older Bayliner. Well...I am happy to say, that
    with alot of research and asking questions of the "competition"...they all
    seem to say some good, and obvious things about this brand of boat. Bayliner
    moved to the better engine system, they've fixed the gell coat problem, and
    they are better built, because now my 20' tested to hold 9 people, as rated on
    the yellow plaque.
             Things I did'nt like about buying this boat...after I paid? There is
    no where to store the bimini top, and the bars do not fold. The trailer came
    with no spare. The kits I purchased from the dealer (coast guard kit, anchor
    kit, bumper kit) cost less to buy the items from the dealer individually, than
    as a kit, and about 50% cheaper to buy them at a Walmart, Kmart, or any
    sporting goods store.
             So, if your thinking of buying a boat...read alot, ask alot of
    questions, and make them take you for a test drive. Oh, by the way..the brand
    new boat, with trailer and tax..was just over $12k...we think this was a
    steal..we'll let you know in 5 years!

    Thanks for your input. I have always purchased my boats new, this way you know where they have been and how they are being cared for. The prices you quoted on the engines are reflecting brand new prices, keep in mind if you have a failure in a used engine the best thing to do is resort to rebuilding the engine or purchase a rebuilt engine and or outdrive (which ever needs to be replaced).  Otherwise its makes more sense to just buy a new boat. The warranty is always a plus too. -Mark
     

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     



     
    Subject: No Subject
    Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:54:28 EST
    From: Riverrtgrl@aol.com
    Hi!   I just purchased a Eliminator 250XP Eagle cuddy/bow rider.   The two
    engines that I narrowed it down to were the Mercruiser 454 and 502.  The 502
    is only 30 hp more but about $9,000.00 more in price.  I was wondering if the
    502 performs that much better than the 454 because of the significant price
    difference.  Is the gas mileage going to be much different?  What is your
    opinion on these two engines?  I am having a very difficult deciding on this
    matter.  Thank you for your advice.

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    Joanne

    If you want to be the fastest, have more punch when towing skiers, and enjoy that extra power when you need it, the few extra dollars is worth it as long as your budget allows it. You will drink gas faster but mostly at extreme speeds. Standard just above wake speeds (20 - 25 knots) will not make much of any difference.   Your resale percentage value will be better as well. On the other hand  if you are not out to be the fastest, rarely tow or carry several passangers, and run frequently on rough waters, then you may want to save and go with the smaller engine, (since probably you won't be using the higher end rpms as much). Your resale percentage however will be slightly lower.  Both engines are reliable from my experiences, however break them in by varying your speed for the first 20 hours or so of running time. I have known a few BAJA dealers who have gunned a  new engine and burned out the gears on the outdrive in undcr one hour of break-in..  Still under warranty but brings on delays which can ruin a boating trip.  -Mark


    Mark, Just purchased a 1988 Grady White with a 1988 Mercury 175hp outboard.  After running at about 4000 rpm for about thirty minutes the engine started to lose power like it was going to stall. I reduced the rpm to 2000 and i made it back to the dock on the way I tried several times to increase the speed and the speed would increase for a few seconds and then decrease again.  Any suggestions on what the problem might be.  Thanks for any help that you can provide.

    It sounds like the fuel filter. Higher speeds drink fuel faster, if the filter picked up anything in the tank it would have clogged and slowed the engine down, slowing down drinks less fuel and therefore cleared up. Fuel filters are relatively inexpensive and should be changed every year. Also check fuel/oil mixture and related equipment and timing, (though timing would slow down instantly at higher speeds), also rotor and or point related ingnition.  Good Luck !  -Mark
     


    Subject: prop replacement
    Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:28:38 -0400
    From: Izzy <jal-izzy@phillynet.com>
    To: Mark-Cameron@boatingamerica.com
    Being new to boating I have a dinged up prop that needs to be replaced. I
    have a 1988 23' Donzi with a merc Crusier Alpha 1 outboard powered with an
    OMC 260. I have the prop and a prop wrench, but no knowledge as to what to
    do. Can you help or tell me where to go.( please be kind when telling me
    where to go )
    Regards,
    Izzy Barish

    Changing a prop is simple. Simply use the prop wrench to pry back the three or so metal retainers (that are bent forward
    to prevent the nut from spinning) and then put the wrench on the nut and unscrew it counter clockwise while holding the prop from spinning. Be sure to note the order that the parts come off, checking for fishing line between the prop and the washers. Just put the new or repaired prop on in reverse order. The wrench makes it easy and can be done in just a few minutes. -Mark
     


    Subject: More Hp from 3.0 Mercruiser
    Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:43:19 EDT
    From: RBBertrand@aol.com
    To: Mark-Cameron@boatingamerica.com
    Mark ,
    Just discovered your site from reading this Sundays's paper and am really
    enjoying it. I see the same hesitation problem of the 3.0 Mercruiser I/O that I have. The
    3.0 liter is an excellent family boat to pull most water toys , but slow to
    pull a 200 lb skier w/ boat load of people. Is there some way to increase hp or
    shorten time to skiing speed? I am using the stainless steel prop as recommended by
    Bayliner. Thanks !    Rodney Bertrand

    I have been expermenting with props more this year than usual, and found that if you have several passangers on
    board and want to pull a skier, your best bet is to purchase a prop with a lower pitch.  Keep your stainless for
    general running, but with a simple prop tool and 60 seconds (plus it gives you a chance to untangle any fishing line
    you might have picked up), you can switch to a say 15" prop.  You will notice an increase in your maximum RPM
    and a great speed reduction, but you will have plenty of power for quick starts and you should still top out at about
    30 or 32. With an empty load you will find about 38 - 40 with a 19" prop and lower RPM maximum. A basic aluminum
    prop will set you back about $ 129. You can order  them through Overton's online, (check our "Links" page). If you
    are boating in water with a lot of shallow spots or debris (ie. floating logs after a hard rain) a composite prop (around $ 89)
    is more ideal and is cheaper to replace than an aluminum prop or an outdrive shaft. They are also good for cornering and are ideal for 18 foot (most boats under 22 ft overall). Also be sure to run a plus or better grade of fuel for best power and if it
    is hesitating in the take off you will need to check your timing or consider a tune up. Either will also help lower your fuel
    consumption. Check with your local Bayliner dealer for the ideal prop for skiing, and if you do switch to a lower pitch
    prop it would be best to try to keep your RPM under 4500, as it will be easy to get to 5000.  Have a great summer
    boating! -Mark
     


    Subject: Rebuilt 3.0 Mercruiser
    Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 19:23:16 -0400
    From: "Randy Westerfield" <rjwest@islc.n
    Reply-To: <@islc.net>
    To: <Mark-Cameron@boatingamerica.com>
    Mark I just finished rebuilding my 1990 3.0 Mercruiser engine.  It is
    mounted in the boat it came with a 1990 Invader.  The problem I am having is adjusting the
    valves. This engine came with the DDIS.  I know that the camshaft and crankshaft
    are set correctly because I marked these items.  I had the head checked and the
    valves reworked.  After putting the engine back together I adjusted the
    valves with what I thought were correct spec's, no lash and one full turn
    of the adjustment nut.  The boat starts up like a champ no problem.  I just took it to the water this
    weekend to test it out,  no problem starting but at WOT I could only pull 3100 RPM's  it just
    didn't want to go.  When I put the engine in neutral the engine has no problem going to
    4500 RPM except that it will miss or backfire on occassion.  I believe my problem is
    the valve adjustment, could you give me the correct procedure's for doing this.  Our
    if this is not the problem what is your bet.
    Thanks Randy

    It sounds like the timing is OK and that you have adjusted the valves properly, the possibilities are
    adjusting the valves too tight where the engine isn't breathing properly, compression in the cylinders
    are too low which would mean reboaring out the cylinders and new rings, air cleaner not breathing
    properly, fuel pump and or filter, engine alignment (since neutral is running well), too much pitch in the prop,
    (you should be no more than about 20 or 21 in pitch to reach 4000 max, or 15 pitch at 4600 rpm). Trim
    too high and weight to heavy in boat. It should be running at least 4400 rpm on a 19 pitch prop (for example).
    Consult with a Mercruiser manual on exact proceedure of adjustment. It involves a feeler gauge to set the space
    and a good wrench to turn the crank shaft to check the proper clearance and gasket. I haven't performed one in years myself,
    thus I would advise a trip to the local marina or possibly a library for a manual. Good luck and fill us in!  -Mark
     
     


    Subject: Torque steer
    Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 14:12:30 -0400
    From: addcmore <addcmore@interlog.com>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Hi Mark,
    Found your web page and I wondered if you have any advise or articles
    you could suggest on how to overcome torque steer. We have an old family
    fibreglass boat (Crestliner) which we just put an 85 Johnson on last
    year, the original motor died.  We are experiencing a strong pull to the
    right as we increase speed.  My husband and brother say it is torque
    steer but we are not sure what we can do about it.  Any suggestions
    would be welcomed.
    Thanks, Dianne

    There is an adjustable fin just above the prop on most outboard and inboard systems.  If your boat is drifting to the right stop the boat at a nearby beach or ramp tilt the engine out and adjust the fin as few degrees counter clockwise while looking up towards it. Run again and stop and make fine tune adjustments until you are comfortable with the steering.


    Subject: New engine power loss
    Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:11:50 -0400
    From: J Dructor <jdructor@citadelcomputer.com>
    To: Mark-Cameron@Worldnet.att.net
    Mark, I have visited your web page several times and have picked-up some
    great tips (thanks!).  Now I have a question of my own.  I just bought a
    1998 SeaRay 175 bowrider with a 3.0 liter Mercruiser Alpha 1 stern drive.
    I've only used the boat about six times and not for very long (in fact, I'd
    bet I haven't even used a full tank of gas yet).  The problem I'm having is
    when I go from idle to 3/4 or full throttle - the boat hesitates and has
    even stalled once. It doesn't happen all the time and it didn't happen the
    first couple times I used it.  When it does occur, the boat usually
    hesitates for a second or two (almost like it's not getting fuel), then
    takes off and runs fine.  By mistake, I had put $20 of 87 octane fuel in
    the boat the first time.  Could this have caused any damage? (I learned
    afterward 89 octane is recommended). Any ideas?  Thanks, -Jim

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    The octane has little impact on hesitation. 89 at less than 2000 feet above sea level is ideal and recommended in order to get cleaner fuel. Above 2000 feet gas burns differently and doesn't need as much octane and 87 or in some cases even less is sufficient, (such as Lake Dillon in Colorado that is over 5000 feet above sea level). However you also may have some bad gas too. First fill your boat up with 89 (I recommend Marathon or Shell), and when on the water after warming up and running a little try taking off back to 3/4 of a throttle or so. If after your second or third fill up you still have hesitation then what you have most likely is a timing problem. It may need to be  advanced a degree or two.  Then since yoru boat is brand new and under warranty  I would recommend taking it back to the dealer for a timing check and or adjustment. Good luck and have a great summer boating!.
     
     
     
     


    Subject: Help?
    Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 00:43:10 -0500
    From: "Eagle" <eagle@compu.net>
     To: <Mark-Cameron@boatingamerica.com>
    Dear Mark,
    Seems to me your the guy i need to talk to.....I got an OMC from ARROW Glass of Memphis.... it's a 16 ft. in board with a gm in-line 4 cyl....this thing had set for about 6 years and the previous owner said it would
    make a good palnter for the back yard... but  since he wanted to leave this thing with the house he was selling to me I said ok.... figured i trash it for him.....while cleaning the barn on this property i found the shop manual and started
    toying with the idea of fixin it....well 6 months later and about 50 bucks in parts and the dang things run like
    a racing motor.....so i did it... i fixed it... i cleaned it.... i waxed it.... and i put 4 new tires on the trailer ....but what now.... i think maybe the water... but wait eagle has never had a boat before..... i'm picking up alot from your site and just wanted to say thanks.... i need the the help that you are sharing and i do appreciate it..... any further tips on putting a restored boat in the water would greatly be appreciated....
    thank you,
    Eagle.compu.net

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I have to say you ran into a bit of luck buying property and getting a boat thrown in. Make sure before you float to read on and check out the trailering tips and operating techniques. Above all make sure you have the necessary life jackets, fire extinguisher, safety flag, horn, navigation lights, bilge ventilation, flame arrestor and any other legal requirements for safe boating in your state and then you are ready to head out, and once out watch for the no wake and wake zones and respect distances from other boats and you are ready. Let me know how your first time out turns out!  -Mark
     


    Subject: Monterey 230 Open
    Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 09:04:00 EDT
    From: M535927 <M535927@aol.com>
     To: Mark-Cameron@boatingamerica.com
    Bought this boat last year and it ran fine all suimmer long. Took it in for
    its 20 hr check-up, get it home and it won;t run over 25,000 rpm. It stalls
    out. To it back to the dealer/servicer and they can't look at for awhile. The
    engine is a 4.7 l. Mercruiser. Was told it could possiby be due to water in
    the fuel, but the engine doesn't overheat. Got any suggestions?  Thanks!

    It sounds like either too much weight on the boat (which is doubtful), timing, clogged carb., dirty fuel filter, engine out of alignment, bad fuel pump or a combination of a couple of the above. If it ran this way right after your got it back from its check up I would call back and complain. Otherwise until you get it in you can check to make sure your distributor is not loose, check your fuel lines (in a very well insulated area), visually inspect your carberator etc.. You shoudl be able to run at least 4000 rpm (not what I think you mean 2500 rpm). -Mark

    Subject: '94 17' Starcraft
    Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 14:43:42 -0400
    From: "Lowe, Randall" <rlowe@attscc.att.com>
     To: "'Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net'" <Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net>
    Mark,
    First of all let me say thanks for the site. It is full of helpful info. I
    am a first time boat owner and have a few questions I would like to ask. I
    bought my first boat, a 1994 17' Starcraft with a Force 120, in Oct, 1996.
    I have never had any problems with the boat, but I'm concerned about the
    quality of Starcraft because they seem to be rare (I have never seen another
    one). Do you have any information about the quality Starcraft boats.
    Secondly, I live in Jacksonville, FL and use the ICWW (mostly for fishing).
    I launched the boat in the ICWW with the plug out. I remembered right away,
    re-trailered and pulled the boat out of the water. I pumped the water out
    with the bilge pump and let it drain from the hull. Is there anything in the
    hull that will corrode? If so what should do to prevent corrosion inside the
    hull? And lastly, I am considering selling the boat and upgrading to a
    larger boat. Is there a blue book for boats so I know how much it is my boat
    is worth?
    Thanks!
    Randy

     

     
     
     
     
     

    Starcraft is well known in the midwest and parts of the south. I haven't heard of anyting negative. The only concern about the incident without the plug is that your engine and and sterring cables weren't submerged. If they were then you should re-lubricate all the lines and fog the engine. But if it was only the haul, aside from any possible metal screws, which even then was probably another form of mostly non corrosive metal, you shouldn't worry about it. As a precaution I would rinse out the bildge area with good old fashion tap water. Last, there are blue books on boats, check with your local marine dealer for specs, most sales reps are more than happy to help out.  -Mark
     


    Subject:  Motor Question:
    Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 07:57:04 -0400
    From: "Scott W. Knotowicz" <swknoto@kodak.com>
    To: <Mark-Cameron@boatingamerica.com>
    CC: <swknoto@kodak.com>
    I have a question you might be able to help me with.  I have a 1986 V6 4.3L
    motor, Rochester 2V carburetor, and OMC Cobra outdrive.  The problem is
    from a stopped position when I put it in gear and I push the throttle hard
    the motor quits, if I ease it, it works fine.  When it is in neutral and I
    push the throttle hard it responds fine.  When I am running at any speed
    and hit the throttle it hesitates than goes?  Any thoughts?  Thanks Scott

    Its a simple fix, your engine timing is off. It should be advanced a couple of degrees. Good time for a tune up.  -Mark
     



     
     
     
     
    Subject: Change trailer bearings
    Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:26:35 -0400
    From: username <username@USCCMAIL.uscc.bms.com>
    Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb Company
    To: Mark-Cameron@boatingamerica.com
    Can you give me some brief instructions on how to change the bearing on
    my trailer.  I bought the right size 1 1/16 in.  Is it easy to do?
    Thanks, Tom.   My address is tbartolo@usccmail.uscc.bms.com

    Jack up the trailer, remove the wheel, pull the bearing covers off, unscrew the bearing nut (that holds the bearing in place). Pull the entire hub off. Pull the rear bearing seal off (if equipped), (I pop it off from the inside with the end of a hammer). Remove and replace the rear bearing (making sure it is packed well). Put the hub back on and slip in the new packed bearing on the front side. Make sure there is plenty of grease. Tighten the bearing nut hand tight so the wheel has no play. Put the cover on, then the wheel. Pull the trailer a couple of miles at slow speeds and then re-check the tightness of the wheel, make sure there is still no play, otherwise re-tighten the nut just to the point where the wheel has no play. This is a must if you are repacking bearings with Bearing Buddies. Always check and adjust bearings after each submersion, and at each stop on long hauls. If you have Bearing Buddies, you will need much more grease, and make sure your wheel has no play, not to over tighten the nut but to hand tighten it and retighten it if the wheel has play after warming the bearings up. I stress this again because if the wheel is loose the Buddies will pop off. Bearing Buddies once seated are great for keeping water from getting to the bearing keeping the grease pressure high enough so the water won't enter the bearings on submersion. The only maintenance then is to check the outer ring and make sure there is grease pressure by pushing in on the ring. If not simply inject until the ring moves out slightly, be careful not to over fill it. Good luck, its not as hard as it seems.  -Mark
     


    Subject: Anchors
    Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:52:22 -0000
    From: "Karen Hill" <karen.a.hill@boeing.com>
    Reply-To: <alias@mdc.com>
    To: <Mark-Cameron@boatingamerica.com>
    Hi Mark,
    We are new boat owners and bought a "repo" boat.  The boat was stripped and
    had no anchor.  We went to the boat store and they had many anchors to
    choose from - all different weights.
    We have a 1989 17.7 foot Galaxie, inboard/outboard, 190 horsepower boat.
    Could you recommend the proper anchor weight for us to buy?
    Thanks,
    Karen Hill
    Please reply to:
    how_kar@msn.com

    The weights may very depending on the type of anchor. Digger Anchors should be 12 pounds for up to a 20' boat, 11 pounds for a Slip Ring Mechanical Anchor, 15 pounds for a navy Anchor, and 16 pounds for a River Anchor. I have (for example) a Slip Ring, also one of the most popular, which you drop and leave out enough anchor line for about a 45 degree or more angle. Then when you pull the line you inadvertently pull your boat to just over your anchor and because of the 90 degree angle your anchor will not be pulling into the ground but away from it straight up. A navy anchor digs faster, and a river anchor is great for mud bottom lakes or in any river situation. I have also seen anchors used for high wind areas that have an underwater parachute within the line that helps keep the anchor from dragging, (should be used in lakes with no current). Good luck and hopefully this helps you out!   -Mark


    Subject: Marada Boats
    Date:  Sat, 25 Apr 1998 20:34:04 -0400
    From: Sean Mohr <mohrs@mindspring.com>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Hello Mark my name is Sean,
    I was reading a old posting of yours from Oct. 96 in which you stated
    that your own or owned a 94 Marada.  I was wondering if your could give me any
    feedback on the Marada boats.  I am looking at a 94 mx-3 marada that is for
    sale here in Atlanta and am trying to find out any pros or cons about this brand
    of boats.
    Thanks
    Sean Mohr
    mohrs@mindspring.com
    Atlanta GA

    I still have that boat and love it. It has a Mercruiser out-drive with the Chevy 4 cylinder, and seems to hold up well over the past four years with all the trailering I do, (I am getting ready to change the tires on the trailer later this year). Best of all it fits well in the garage at just under 21 feet from prop to trailer hitch. As with any used boat it is important to be able to test run the engine. Ideally you should be able to run it on the water. Inspect the engine compartment for excessive exhaust fumes (where you may need to repair or replace the exhaust manifold), check the oil, the out-drive oil reservoir, check around the prop housing (with the prop removed and look for signs of transmission oil leakage. Pull the out-drive plug and drain  just a tiny bit of transmission oil, it should be a blue green color, and not a milky color (milky color represents water seepage and could result in a costly repair). While doing this inspect the skeg for any excess damage. Also while testing, during the running, make sure the steering wheel turns easily, the throttle control operates normally, and that all gauges have proper readings. An 18 foot should be able to run about 36-38 mph full throttle with a 17" prop on a four cylinder, or just about 40 with a speed prop (19"). Check around the hull for any stress cracks, under hull damage, and pay close attention to the engine area. If the unit checks out then you will have  a good used boat. Marada as a manufacturer is very good,  I have personally talked with reps. from the factory and  they are very excited about their product line and have made major modifications in their units over the past several years, all of them positive. This year they are working on design modifications on their 26 foot unit. You can check out their site at http://www.marada.com/index.htm.  -Mark
     
     

    Subject: "TILTING THE MOTOR"
    Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 09:42:41 -0700
    From: jts@ite.net (Jesse Tainatongo)
    To: Mark-Cameron@boatingamerica.com
    I AM HAVING PROBLEMS IN A 140 HP JOHNSON OUTBOARD MOTOR.  I CAN'T SEEM
    TO TRIM THE MOTOR UP.  IT TILTS DOWN BUT IT WON'T TRIM UP.  IF YOU HAVE
    ANY IDEA OR SUGGESTIONS ON THIS, IT WOULD BE GRATEFUL.  I AM THINKING
    THAT IT MIGHT BE AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM, BUT THE BOOK THAT I HAVE ISN'T
    CURRENT. THANKS,...J.T.

    It is possible that it could be electrical, if it is sounding like it is struggling to trim up then you are probably low on fluid. If there is no response then it is probably a relay, faulty switch or possibly a faulty pump, the latter being the most expensive.  Good luck and keep us informed of how it comes out!  -Mark

    Subject: Hydrofoils, trim tabs and weight distribution
    Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:24:50 -0400
    From: Walter Koucky <wkoucky@pol.com>
    Organization: saic
    To: Mark-Cameron@boatingamerica.com
    I have a 19' Maxum bowrider with a 5 litre and an Alpha 1.  I put a Land
    & Sea Torque-shift prop on it to pull up large slaloom skiers.  Pulling
    kids & tubers, I have the same problem staying on plane that you
    addressed with Tim Conley.  Have you heard of using a hydrofoil with a
    shifting prop?  What about moving heavy items like the battery (or two
    batteries) to the bow?  Why do designers put the battery, fuel and all
    the weight so for aft?  Is it to minimize travel and agitation? Would
    trim tabs be dramatically more effective in getting on plane at low
    speeds?  With the 5 litre and the shifting prop, getting on plane is not
    usually a problem, however, staying on plane at low speeds and with a
    loaded boat is difficult.

    A hydrofoil does help get on plane faster but it is difficult for nearly all boats to maintain a speed right around wake speed without making constant throttle adjustments. I try to maintain 15 to keep legal state speed limits for small children on the tubes. As far as putting fuel and battery near the or at the aft section helps keep the center of gravity towards the back for quick take offs. If you throttle up with much of your weight forward you will find the vessel will struggle to get up on plane because the bow has trouble lifting, you are getting a plowing effect. Trim tabs along with a hydrofoil will be the most effective, but tabs will drag the speed down and require more thrust to maintain the same speed, it will induce more stability over all though helping to maintain 15-18 without extra throttle adjustments. The mixture of both is ideal, but results will very with the hull design. The shifting prop is great for fuel efficiency and thrust for pulling skiers. So if you are ready to shell out a few bucks, try the hydrofoil first, then get ready for the big money (if still not satisfied with the results) and ad trim tabs. Good luck and have a great 98' boating!  -Mark.
     
     

    Subject: First boat.
    Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:36:06 -0600
    From: Dassow Ryan <RDassow@ALLIEDCG.com>
    To: "'Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net'" <Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    I am thinking about buying my first boat. I am looking used Bayliners/4
    Winns boats around 19-21ft. Any words of wisdom? I will most likely be
    buying from a private party, not a dealership. Also, I'm going to lease
    a truck to pull this thing. The truck I'm looking at has a tow capacity
    of 3600 lbs and a tongue weight capacity of 350. Should I just get a
    class 2 hitch? Will this be enough? Any help would be appreciated!
    thanks

    I would suggest a Class 3 hitch for a 19' boat or more. Once you figure fuel load along with all the other water toys and fishing gear you will be over the weight a Class 2 can handle. Its always better for a little extra if necessary. On the other hand of you are getting an 18' or less you will be OK for a Class 2 and your vehicle will tow easier. Also make sure your shocks are ready and you have the proper cooling for your transmission. -Mark
     

    Subject: OMC parts
    Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:29:16 -0600
    From: Charlie Luedeke <marinetk@athenet.net>
    Organization: Marine Tech
    To: "'mark-cameron@boatingamerica.com'" <mark-cameron@boatingamerica.com>
    Mark; My name is Charlie. I operate Marine Tech in New London, WI. We are a
    OMC service dealer. We specialize in new and used  Johnson and Evinrude
    parts. We may not always be the cheapest, but we don't sell junk. We stand
    behind every thing we sell. I know there are a lot of rip-offs out there so
    we try to be fair and do the best for our customers. I know this is a free
    board and I don't expect you to post this. I'm not looking for free
    advertising. I just wanted to drop you a note in case I could be of help to
    someone. If I can be of assistance to you at any time , give me a call. I
    am an OMC certified Master Tech, at least you will know I'm not a backyard
    wanna-be mechanic. Look forward to hearing from you. Charlie, Marine Tech
    920-982-4123.

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I am always looking forward to hearing from technicians.  Please feel free to check our BBSs linkable from the front page anytime.  Many boaters  stopping by Boating America may at one time or another need your advise!.  -Mark
     
     


    Subject: boating on the Illinois River
    Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 12:55:21 -0600
    From: "M. Jason Cunningham" <m-cunningham@nwu.edu>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Hello,
    We were browsing through you site and noticed that you have no information
    on boating in the marseilles pond of the river.
    We love boating dropping our boat in that section of the river.  It is 27
    miles long between the locks, has many accessible beaches for camping and
    picnics.  Also, the boating season on the river starts before and ends
    after the boating season on Lake Michigan because the weather is better.
    We usually launch in Seneca, Illinois at the Hidden Cove Marina ($10.00
    launch fee) on the weekends, but go to the public launch in Morris during
    the weekdays.  (The public launch is usually a 2 to 3 hour wait just to
    launch on the weekends, then the wait to take the boat out is long also.
    Usually no wait at the Hidden Cove).  The public launch is in Straton park
    off of route 47 in Morris. The Hidden Cove is the first right after
    crossing the I- 170 bridge (from north to south) in Seneca.
    Hope this information is useful to you.  Thanks for providing the info.  If
    you have any further questions about that portion of the Illinois River
    please feel free to reply to this e-mail.  We truly believe that the
    Marseilles portion of the Illinois River is the best river section near
    Chicago.

    Thanks for the information, I will look into having upgraded in the Illinois page,  -Mark
     

    Subject: Paddlewheel Productions
    Date:  Sat, 21 Feb 1998 06:42:13 EST
    From:  IWAHAY@aol.com
    To:  Mark-Cameron@boatingamerica.com
    Hi there,
    I am writing a few organizations that I am familiar with to ask a question
    about a plan I have. I am rebuilding an old houseboat and fitting it with
    paddlewheel power. I have spent many years as a professional photographer, but
    my real love is river travel.
    My plan is to travel the rivers of the Eastern U.S. in my paddlewheeler and
    take photos of peoples boats for them, for a fee. This would allow me to
    continue to make a meager living, while doing what I love most, traveling
    rivers. If it works, I will propably never be a land lubber again.  I figure
    that many people who pay thousands of dollars for those nice boats might be
    willing to spend a few bucks for a professional picture of it, in the water.
    So what do you think? From your experience with recreational boaters, do you
    think this concept is feasable. I realize that most fishermen wouldnt be
    interested, but I am looking more toward recreational boaters.
    Any short message from you would be greatly appreciated. I plan to have the
    boat finished and on my way by May. I hope to hear from you soon.
    Respectfully,
    Jerry M. Hay
    Terre Haute, Indiana

    With proper marketing and the general drive to accomplish this goal, it is possible. The best time to approach any boater would be during the boating festivals. You may consider timing yourself to be in various places when these festivals occur.  Advertising in the form of brochures or posting when you will be visiting marinas may also work well. You may want to offer various packages, something for everyone's budget. Good luck on your venture, and your houseboat. -Mark
     

    Subject: mooring laws
    Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:19:03 -0500
    From: donald davis <blackwater@mindspring.com>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Good morning,I'm trying to find out the regulations for mooring and or storing a boat on private property which lies along the bank of the yellow river in Lilburn, Gwinnett county. I've called the Army Corps of engineers and Gwinnett County transportation , they did not know. My property has a small pond and I've toyed with the idea of putting a small houseboat on it for a retreat, outfitted with a sun-mar composting toilet, so there would be no discharge of waste. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Donald

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I would suggest checking with the Gwinnett Court House and see if your neighborhood has any zoning restrictions. If they do you will probably have to contact an attourney for legal options, (of course you will also want to check with the state of Georgia, so it would probably be safe to hire an attourney for the few dollars it would cost, it would be a good investment before sinking 50 to 250 thousand for a houseboat). It will also be costly to put the houseboat in the pond, unless it leads into the river directly. Let me know what happens! -Mark
     


    Subject: What is deadrise exactly
    Date: Tue, 20 Jan 98 22:35:04 +0000
    From: Randy Cleveland <rclevela@ichips.intel.com>
    Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Hi Mark, Excellent page. I have been looking for a long time for a page such as yours. Here's my question. I just purchased a 1998 Regal 1700 LSR and one of the selling points that the salesman used was that with 24 degrees deadrise that this boat has a superior ride. What exactly is deadrise and it's relationship to ride? I am very happy with the boat, I was just curious about this.
    Thanks Randy

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    Deadrise is the measurement of the angle between the bottom of a boat and its widest beam. A vessel with a 0º deadrise has a flat bottom, high numbers indicate deep V shaped hul. In a nut shell, you have a deep V, which cuts through the choppier water better than say a 0º which would be a really flat surface and giving you the feel of every little ripple in the water, and one foot waves or more a bone shaking ride. The deep V tends to cut the waves and push the water a-part smoothing out the chop. The deeper the angle the smoother the ride, however too much will cause the boat to tilt to the side when the weight in the boat shifts left or right of the center. 24 degrees is a good angle and also helps the boat give a stable ride even when the weight shifts to the side. Plus you will see nearly all manufacturers change the shape or angle measurement between front and back of the hull to give you less chance of boat roll over in the event the motor turns to one side at full throttle, and have the appearance of a Boston Whaler design in the back 1/3 still providing a smooth ride at 35 mph + speeds at proper engine tilt. Have fun in your new boat this coming season! -Mark
     


    Subject: Riveted Starcraft Boat
    Date: Mon, 19 Jan 98 20:50:48 +0000
    From: Eric Balders <ebalders@rohr.com>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Mark, I have a Starcraft 18' Mariner. This summer I used it in the pacific ocean. After about 2 trips approximately 30 Mi offshore, it began taking on water. As it turns out, quite a few of the rivet heads have sheared off. Do you have any suggestions? Is this boat fixable for use in this environment? Thank you. Eric Balders <ebalders@rohr.com>

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I have heard of rivet heads coming off as aluminum boats age, especially around salt water. You need to dry dock the boat, and have a specialist inpect it for possible repair. If the condition of the surface is good (not dented, cracked, bent or has too much corrision) then it may be repairable. My family has had the same aluminum row boats since the 60s which at this minute are sitting upside down on a beach in Traverse City, Michigan and probably being run over by snowmobiliers as you read this. To this date I don't think they have lost a rivet yet. It would be worth repairing if repairable. Good luck ! -Mark
     


    Subject: Volvo Penta in a 1984 19 foot Bayliner
    Date: Mon, 15 Dec 97 03:25:44 +0000
    From: "Dick Walters" <weaseldick@otn.net>
    To: <Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net>
    Mark, I love your page! I have a problem that can't be fixed locally. My Volvo has run perfectly until the day it quit. It was as if the key was turned off. We changed the coil and points. The points lasted about 10 minutes. There was severe metal transfer on one side, so we changed the points and condenser again with the same results. Nobody can fix it except suggest switching over to electronic ignition. Isn't there a simple fix out there? Dick Walters Yuba City, CA

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    DIck, it sounds like your rod that turns your distributor may be damaged causing a irregular spin like a tire out of bounce, this may be why your metal might be wearing more on one side. You will probably have to remove the rod or gear that turns your distributor and inspect the gears and any other components related to the shaft, inspecting for anything bent etc.. It will probably be cheaper to repair it rather then install fuel injection. Fuel injection is more fuel efficient and gives you improved performance, if you are up for the cost it may be worth your while! Good Luck and let us know what happens! -Mark
     


    Subject: honda outboard motor
    Date: Tue, 28 Oct 97 23:51:41 +0000
    From: aam@jps.net (albert marino)
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    sir,my honda outboard circa 1990, has a small break on the tip of the cavitation plate.About a 1x2 inch triangular piece broke off when i backed into and hit the garage wall. will this negatively effect performance and can it be welded back on. I am relatively new at boating and your service has been very informative and helpful. thank you sincerely for whatever help you may give.

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    The cavitation plate is part of the Anode usually towards the rear of the engine. It probably will not effect performance but may cause corrision problems later. An aftermarket anode part (if that is what your unit uses as a plate) will probably be cheaper than paying someone to weld it. I have seen them in aftermarket as low as $ 9.95. However check with your honda dealer for advice. You may want to visit their site at http://www.honda-marine.com for more information. Skegs are also an item that gets broken while backing. They can in almost all cases be welded. -Mark
     


    Subject: Mercruise 188 gas engine
    Date: Tue, 28 Oct 97 23:36:33 +0000
    From: Charles Gaudet <Gaudetcj@EDnet.NS.CA>
    Organization: Nova Scotia Department of Education and Culture
    To: mark-cameron@worldnet.att.net
    I enjoy your web page. I recently purchased a FIBREFORM cruiser with twin 188 mercruisers with alpha 1 drives. Can you tell me where I could get litterature on the boat and on the engines. Thanks.

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I checked and couldn't locate anything on Fibreform, but you can find plenty of information on the engines at http://www.mercurymarine.com/ . They should be able to locate a Candian dealer near you for manuals. -Mark
     


    Subject: Trailering and OMC stern drives
    Date: Mon, 20 Oct 97 03:39:05 +0000
    From: JCole59946@aol.com
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Dear Mark,
    I've been reading questions and tips on your web page and I can't resist sending in a couple of my own.
    My family has a 1985 21ft Chris Craft bow rider that weighs about 3,300 lbs dry and a tandem trailer that weighs about 700lbs. My Dad has a 92 Ford explorer with a 4.0 V6 and class III hitch and I've got an 89 Chevy Caprice with a 5.0 V8 and a class III hitch. My Chevy has also got a heavy-duty radiator, aux transmission cooler, load leveling air shocks, and the optional rear axle ratio. My Dad says that neither of these vehicle are qualified to tow this boat on the highway, but I argue that they can handle it. I've never tried to pull anything this heavy before.
    What do you think?? What can we do to improve our safety when towing??
    Also, The boat is used in fresh water only and is stored high and dry in a boat lift. At the end of each season we do all the maintenance stuff, but this year when we changed the lower unit fluid in the intermediate housing (OMC 800), instead of looking like gear grease, it came out looking like chocolate milk.
    Do we have a major problem on our hands?? I'd like to take care of it over the winter before next season.
    Please, Tell me what you think!!
    Thanks,
    John Coleman
    Richmond VA

    Towing with the Caprice is not a problem for 3500 pounds, I would check with GM on the extra weight. You are probably closer to 4000 pounds and possibly 4300 pounds figuring fuel and accessories. The transmission cooler and shocks are a must for anything over 1000 pounds. Check with GM on the max GVWR rating for your car. More than likely you are right at the limit, not a problem for short hauls, but not recommended for longer pulls. If your car is braking and running properly, not bogging down, then you are probably OK. Be sure to inspect break pads and change the transmission and engine oils regularly. The rating on the Explorer should be OK with the cooler, but will probably bog down more while towing on hills. The hitches for both vehicles are fine. If the transmission oil looks like chocolate milk, then you have a leak somewhere in the unit. It could be and most likely be a faulty seal somewhere in the outdrive requiring careful inspection and replacement of the seals. You may also have a bad bearing near the propellor that could require replacement. Most likely causes are hitting the bottom and general wear and tear. Check with your local marine dealer and parts and labor costs. Seals and bearings probably will be less than 200-dollars, but the labor may be closer to the four figure mark. Getting the leaks fixed early can save you a lot of money preventing a transmission meltdown which would require the replacement of the outdrive. -Mark
     

    Subject: I/O winterization
    Date: Mon, 29 Sep 97 03:43:35 +0000
    From: "William R. Murphy" <bmurphy@kiva.net>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Mark: Great page. I just purchased a '95 Rinker with the 3.0 Mercruiser and the alpha one stern drive. For lack of a garage I have to store it outside for the winter. Besides changing the drive oil and stabilizing the fuel, what else needs to be done to this unit. Also, the steering seems looser than what it should be. When idling and holding the steering wheel straight the boat will serve back and forth quite a bit. The steering system seems to be all hyrdraulic. I wondering if it needs bleeding and where the valve would be.

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I plan on winterization in November. I have stored mine outside in the past but recently have cleaned out the garage and it stays just above freezing. First: if the steering is loose but has no play, then you are fine, some boats have power steering, but if it has play contact your Mercruiser / Rinker Dealer for advice, bleeding should be done by a professional (or at least step by step device). Otherwise may wind up with more play then when you started. Two: only do this if you are finding play at high speeds, or while out of the water see if the steering has any play. Three: the drifting or swerving back and fourth is normal at low speeds when the trim is all the way up in shallow areas. Install a depth sounder and keep your trim in most of the way when possible, a depth sounder helps you to avoid hitting the skeg on the bottom (once you realize your getting into shallow water readings). This will reduce the swerving, my boat does the same thing at idle and I have gotten used to it now by habbit, (but the trimming helps).

    Winterization requires (at least as a precaution against freezing) the draining and replacing the outdrive oil. But first pour fuel stable liquid into the gas tank and fill it nearly full with plus type of high quality gasoline. Then run a garden hose to your engine (you will need a special engine attachment which pumps water into the intakes on the lower part of your outdrive), start the engine with the hose running, and fog it by pouring oil right into your carberator and letting the smoke from your exhaust coat all the components inside your engine, I use a full quart and pour it in little by little so the engine doesn' t stall, and then completely stall it out as I near the end of the quart. Then drain your block, if your block freezes in the winter then your will have damage to your engine, possibly so extreme that you will have to replace it. There are two plugs on the four cylinder located on the right underside of your carberator manifold, one is actually on the engine wall, the other on the manifold and are recognized by the brass type of plug. I drain mine everytime I pull out of the lake. Drain this after the fogging process, then lower and raise your outdrive to get the water out. Next shut off your ignition safety switch (located near your throttle), and crank the engine several times to push any remaining water out. I also suggest pulling your boat around the block which will prevent puddeling (of course have your bilge plug off). Then do your outdrive oil. The oil is thick so the process will take a while. Use Quicksilver drive oil on Mercrusier, they make two types, a standard mixture and a heavier mixture (check your manual for which type to use) and will take about two quarts. You need to obtain a pump kit at your marine dealer which screws into the top of the oil container, and pump it in from the bottom of the outdrive. Once the oil flows out of the top plug (at the top of your outdrive), then you cap the bottom plug and then fill your reservoir in the engine compartment so you have a good flow out of the top plug. Seal the top plug and level the reservoir and the outdrive is safe for the winter and ready for spring. Be sure to watch your reservoir in the spring as it will lower after the air bubbles in the oil settle. Trim your engine down (to prevent the gimble bearing from freezing in a trimmed positions) Disconnect your battery and store it in your garage or place where it will be a little above freezing. Do not store it in your house, acid fumes are unhealthy. Next drain your engine oil and replace the oil filter (its easy and just like doing it in a car), use 25W 40 Quicksilver which is recommended in most Mercruiser applications, it will keep your warranty in tack. Lubricate your plugs on the left and right side of your outdrive with quicksilver lubricants, and your throttle and steering linkages with special lube 101. Last but not least re-tighten your lugnuts on your trailer, and put it on jack stands to prevent tire rot. Check your bearings or bearing buddies to make sure there is plenty of lubrication. On bearing buddies you should be able to push down on one side of the plastic bleeder tube which helps to repack the greese. If there is no play then pump boat trailer grease into the plugs on the bearings until the bleeder moves just a little, (this should be done everytime you submerse or re-fuel on long trips). Too much will cause the grease to run out and splatter your wheels. Repack the buddies every five years. Thats about it, your are now ready for storage and spring. PS some people like to inject anti-freeze into the engine for prolong storage in winter and spring, it is important to get the right mixture of antifreeze in the system. Check with your dealer on advice for your climate. Also if your engine has a passive cooling system (found more in salt water ready engines) the winterization process will be a little different. Have a great fall season boating! - Mark.
     


    Subject: prop torque
    Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 00:07:57 +0000
    From: crs <crs@ameritech.net>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Mark, is there a way to reduce or eliminate prop torque? If I let go of the steering wheel at high speed the boat turns drastically to the right. I have tried adjusting the the trim keel ( or what ever you call it ) on the motor, but it has no effect. The motor is an 85 hp Merc outboard.
    Anxiously awaiting a solution,
    Carl

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    Too much trim can have an effect on Torque steering. Trimming in more will help, plus look at weight distribution in the boat, (such as all passengers or weight on one side), or if you are in a high cross wind, you will run into steering pull. Choose a calm day with no wind, distribute the weight evenly on one side, then take a run and adjust your trim or tilt, and your keel. You should be able to find the happy medium. If all else fails, check your engine and make sure it mounted level. -Mark
     


    Subject: Boating Question
    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 97 14:07:43 +0000
    From: "Steve L." <justdoit@ih2000.net>
    Organization: Computers Ect.
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Just to start off I'd like to say your page is a great help for other boaters. I am a first time boat owner, and recently purchased a 1984 18' Bayliner with a 4 cylinder Volvo I/O engine. The boat has a passenger limit of 8 people. The boat takes off faily good but sometimes dosent want to plane out. When this happens the engine reves high but not much added speed occurs, and furthermore it feels like it slips (like it catches off and on, almost like the prop is slipping through the water in all honesty im not too sure if this is common). Is there any way to figure out the problem myself? Or have you ever had this problem before? I know someone who said it might be a gear in the outdrive, but boats are not his specialty. I would appriciate any help in this matter. Thanx a million, Steve. PS. on my first outing i forgot the plug too. Luckily i was sitting by the dock!!! And on my second outing i got lost (after dark on a winding river) and ran out of gas 300yards from the ramp. What luck eh hehe.

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I can think of a couple of possibilities. First make sure your trim is set lower. If the trim is too high it will cavitate on turns and also when the boat is loaded heavy in the front. If you are loading 8 people on board, try a run alone and see if the problem still exists Second remove your prop, check to make sure the teeth are not stripped, if they are, replace the necessary parts and the prop. If it still slips, you whould remove and inspect the outdrive, of course with the help of a good mechanic and a manual (Chilton's is one good source available at most marine shops). Good luck and see you on the lake! -Mark
     


    Subject: Columbus boater needs info
    Date: Fri, 1 Aug 97 00:09:58 +0000
    From: Dennis Ellerbeck <DELLERBECK@worldnet.att.net>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Hi Mark, First, want to say your page is just the greatest boating page on the net! I've bookmarked it and visit often. Was wondering if you could give me some info. We would like to boat on the Muskingham River, maybe go thru the locks down to the Ohio River. Can you tell me about how deep the river is? We have a 24' Bayliner Ciera Cruiser (Toy For Two - so be sure and honk if you ever see us at Alum Creek or wherever). Also, what would be the closest place to put the boat in at? We did see one place (private, I think it cost $5 to launch) near Zanesville. Do you know of any good ramps (considering our boat size)? How far on the Muskingham from Zanesville can you boat before you come to the first lock? How's the fishing on this river? Anything else you are able to tell me, I'll sure appreciate. Thanks for your time, and happy, safe boating!
    Sincerely,
    One of Toy For Two's Crew...
    Carol

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    The Muskingum River is Ohio's only navagable inland waterway (fully inside the state) where all its locks, some dating back to the early 1800s are still hand cranked. There are 11 locks starting with Ellis (just south of Dresdin and about every 5 - 10 miles apart all the way south to Marietta. You can launch on the river free at Riverside Park in Zanesville (south of Ellis which is shallow anyway), and start locking at Zanesville at the 5th St. Bridge. The park office is at this lock and you can purchase an annual pass for $35 (as of last year). The locks are only open on weekends and I would suggest calling the ODWC to make sure all the locks are open before venturing out. The river is 5 feet deep on average and shallower below the locks. Check with each lock master for directions around shallow spots. An early Saturday Morning start can make the round trip possible in two days, lock operaters radioed ahead to the other lock operators the last time I made the trip so the locks were set to raise and lower us at the time we arrived reducing locking delay time. Locks south of Ellis include Zanesville, Philo (about 7 miles south of Zanesville), Rockerby Lock, McConnelsville/Malta, Stockport (bat capitol of southeast Ohio) and Beverly many with picnic facilities. Fishing is excellent, a fish caught near the Beverly locks was used in the movie Grumpier Old Men II. I was out in Alum Creek Thusday evening checking out the TNT competition weigh-in, and will probably be out again a week from Sunday, if I see your boat I will be sure to wave! -Mark
     


    Subject: Boating on Torch Lake!
    Date: Wed, 23 Jul 97 23:51:29 +0000
    From: Carpenter <Carpenter@bbs.lethal.net>
    Organization: Lethal Online
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Hi Mark!
    I grew up on Torch Lake, so I really enjoyed reading about your trip through the Chain of Lakes. The Clam River Dockside has great burrito's, don't you think!
    My husband and I bought a 1985 27 ft. Sea Ray Sundancer this year. We've decided to name it "Broke Again!", because the previous owner unfortunately didn't know how to maintain the engines. We've almost worked all of the bugs out so we can relax again.
    We are looking forward to being at the Elk Rapids Harbor for Harbor Days the first weekend in August. It's a great time. I really believe they have the best fireworks in Northern Michigan. This festival ranks right up there with the National Cherry Festival in Traverse City (only on a smaller scale). You ought to try it sometime!
    If you know of any great boat trips on the Great Lakes, let me know.
    Thanks!
    Tracey Carpenter Williamsburg, MI
    P.S. Another fun "Chain of Lakes" trip starts in Oden, Michigan and follows through to Cheboygan through the Crooked River.

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I live for a buritto at Dockside ! My kids also like the little indoor shuffleboard game!. Being a formal resident of Birch Lake I have been to several Harbor Days which do have great fireworks!. However this year I won't be able to get up there until August 18th, a little late for the fest, but I still like those sunset cruises to the Old Mission Lighthouse Point (well away from the shoals though), and may head out to Northport if the lake is calm. Last year I made the Cherry Festival, Blue Angles had a great show out on the west bay!. Glad to ehar that you have all the bugs out of that 27 footer!. Sea Ray makes a great line, but maintenance is a must!. I  highly recommend the Crooked Tree - Burt Lake etc. based on what I have heard and read. I plan on running part of that chain while I am up there. Also for boating on a smaller scale the Intermeidate Lake - Wilson Lake etc. is also great, but a little shallow during dry seasons. The scenery is spectacular along with the fishing. Thanks for writing and please keep in touch and let me know how things are up there near T.C.. -Mark
     


    Subject: info Date: Thu, 24 Jul 97 04:56:11 +0000
    From: dr <drudling@iaw.on.ca>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Hi Mark,
    I have written before and find your advice very helpful, todays question is what is your opinion on these dolphins, hydrofoils? I guess there are many different names for them , the fins on the engines lower end. I have a 20 foot bow rider f/g, 4.3L omc, cobra out drive with trim/tilt, what do you think if i put them on my boat? what do they really do? Have heard many different storys about them and would really like to hear yours.
    thanks Dave.

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I have run a boat with a hydrofoil, and found that it helps to plane at a slightly lower speed, but has less effect at high speeds. The main benefit is the ability to gain speed quicker since you will plane around 13-15 (speeds may very among brands of boats and hydrofoils) and power up faster since the engine isn't working as hard to plane. It also improves handling at slower speeds and reduces porpesing (the bobbing up and down usually at speeds below the 30 when trimmed to high). Its an inexpensive way to give a little kick to your performance and different hydrofoils will very, some cost as little as $24.95 and others (which claim a better holeshot on a speed prop and better turnging at higher speeds) will reach into the $ 100 plus range. If you are into heavy turning while pulling a tube or into a little more performance, and have been boating for at least two years (where most boaters start to get the real feel of performance) then you may want to give it a try!. -Mark
     


    Subject: Boating Date: Thu, 17 Jul 97 07:58:29 +0000
    From: pcozzi <pcozzi@eagle.lhup.edu>
    Organization: Lock Haven University
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Hi I have a boat, we have had it for one year. It is a runaboat with a 80 horsepower engine. Last year it ran great this year it is not getting the speed it use to. Any advice to get more speed? Thank You! James email me at jcozzi@hotmail.com

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I would recommend using plus octane gas, check your plugs, timing etc. propellor, and also your carry-ons. Some people tend to collect things on their boat which wind up weighing things down and reducing your speed. Last but not least the weather can have a slight effect of a mile and hour or two, more humid air intaking in the carberator reduces speed and less humid cooler air (which is a more dense air) will give you maximum performance. This is what I have noticed over several years in boating, ie. northern Michigan I run about 42 in 75 degree weather and Columbus, Ohio I max at about 39 in 90 degree weather on a four cylinder. Good luck and have a great summer on the water ! -Mark
     


    Subject: 1958 Johnson 18HP SEAHORSE
    Date: Thu, 12 Jun 97 22:22:03 +0000
    From: rmeyer <rmeyer@inna.net>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Hi, My DAD left me his Johnson SeaHorse! It is in near new condition! I don't plan on running it but, plan on finding a boat from the same time frame or similar style to match it! I was hoping to find antique outboard club members on the net. I am hoping you could put me in the right direction. I am also attempting to find a shop manual on the motor. Any help would be appreciated.
    Chris Meyer

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    I haven't heard of such a site, but sounds like a good idea. If anyone can run a copy off for Chris please e-mail him! Most repair shops that have been around for years and years usually can get access to manuals, and in some cases you may be able to locate a Chilton's manual at a local library in a county that has lakes and navigable rivers. -Mark
     


    Subject: SEAMASTER ENGINES
    Date: Fri, 13 Jun 97 14:21:52 +0000
    From: "R. Danz" <DANZRH@NAVAIR.NAVY.MIL>
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    MARK. I'm looking to buy a 28 Bertram which was repowered with Twin Seamaster 534Ci fords. I don't know anything about that engine except that it is heavy truck engine. Do you know anything about them and where I might get parts, manuals etc.... And what should I look for to determine age and condition. I understand that in the truck application it has a 7.3 to 1 compression ratio. What does that relate to in PSI. I think it is (7.3*14.7) - 14.7 = 92 psi. The name plate on the engine says 1985. It has a fresh water cooling system and all brass manifolds and risers. PLease email me back at DANZRH.NIMITZ@NAVAIR.NAVY.MIL

     

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    That compression ratio sounds good for an 8 cylinder, it would be around 9.0 to 1 or higher on a four cyclinder. I would suggest checking the exhaust manifold for leaks and corrision, if it is a fresh water engine this would be a proper indicator for corrision. More corrision indicates more running and or salt water running. Check the plugs, points etc. If possible take the water pump off where you can peak at the cylinder wall area. If chipping is noted then engine trouble may be a problem soon. As far as parts and manuals contact their website at www.bertram.com . -Mark
     


    Subject: Help!!! Date:
    Sun, 15 Jun 97 13:15:46 +0000
    From: "Rudish, Charles" <crudish@cambridgeoh.com>
    Organization: CP
    To: Mark-Cameron@worldnet.att.net
    Mark, Maybe you can help. I am about to go up to Toledo to sit for my Inland/Great Lakes OUPV Master's license. Assuming I get through that, I'll take the International test, hopefully at the same time. I'm new with this internet stuff, so I'm not real familure with where to search for this information, but I am interested in using my license to do boat transfers up and down the ICWW. Though my license will cover up to nmt 25 gross ton vessels, I'm not really interested in doing Tug or charter fishing work, I don't have the experience for that anyway